Saturday, December 10, 2005

Well, HERE IT IS!!

Bt popular demand, just in time for the Holidays, as recorded by Don McLean:

Bye, bye Misters Davie and Ty


Unfortunately, I was not able to get the recording artist Don McLean, but instead got former UCLA basketball great Don McLean.

I've forwarded the track to music industry executives who've advised they've never head anything like it before, and one was so smitten by the song that she said "I'll never be able to listen to the original again."

65 Comments:

At 4:10 AM , Blogger c nordegren said...

i love it keep it up

 
At 5:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yet another reason why your site is the BEST on the whole internet!!

Keep up the genious!

 
At 7:44 AM , Anonymous SORIN65, aka fan in Tarheel land said...

Marco,
You are on your way to joining "The Pantheon"!

 
At 9:02 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

unbelievably awesome! your website is a big favorite of mine. is there anyway that the song can be downloaded? with your permission i would love to have my cousin play it on his weekly ND radio show this week. my email is mkkkmom1@aol.com. thanks for your time
betse rizzi (theoriginalndmom)

 
At 2:49 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marco, you're the best!

 
At 7:13 AM , Anonymous Newt said...

Brilliant, Marco. THAT'S pure genious.

 
At 10:45 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marco,

Please put the words up.

 
At 10:59 AM , Anonymous justin said...

i'm speechless marco, thank you.

 
At 11:42 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

the irish still suck! by by mr. charlie weis! go ducks and all the other DESERVING teams!

 
At 4:03 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Wacko - The Iwish haven't had a team since the old Ara when the Iwish played on Sunday. Bet all your crack money on the Iwish and destitute will be your namo.

 
At 4:14 PM , Anonymous Chris said...

Rudy Sucks, the Irish suck... Charlie Weis had a lucky year but it won't happen for long; remember Ty Willingham's first year, look where he is now

 
At 4:27 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys don't have jobs do you?
Or are you Miami graduates...?

 
At 5:11 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

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At 5:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you hate ND so much you cruise through ND blog sights? And us ND fans are the losers? Get a life...and probably a job...you have too much time on your hands.

 
At 5:40 PM , Anonymous A Notre Dame Fan said...

Could you please leave Willingham and Davie in peace. ND fans got what they wanted, they're both gone. Now could we appreciate the good things they did do (yes, there were some good things) and move on with what we have.

Be happy we have Charlie, but don't continue to demean two men that are gone. They did their best; it wasn't good enough so they're not here anymore. Please, leave it at that. I'm a life-long ND fan, but I'm so sick of the Ty bashing. Please leave the man and peace and just move on with the present.

Go Irish! Beat the Buckeyes!

 
At 6:22 PM , Anonymous The Leprechaun said...

Yes! I Love It!!! You know the Irish are back and glory has been restored when jealous people start trolling ND sites. For all you trolls out there, the Irish are going to be freakin' awesome next year, what with all the awesome recruits we have coming in. And with a genious robot we will be UNSTOPPABLE!!!! God, Country, Notre Dame, Marco. GO IRISH!!!

 
At 6:48 PM , Anonymous ND '03 said...

Marco,

That was sheer brilliance! Well done my friend, well done!

Ignore these jackass minions, undoubtedly sent by Rove and Sparty. I wouldn't believe there pure, unadulterated garbage if you screamed it in my ears for 100 years.

See you, and the Geo, in Tempe!

 
At 7:39 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice Work Marco! You've made the bigtime. Now you have a bunch of morans who think you're actually serious with this stuff. (you aren't series, are you?)

 
At 7:40 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait till you see the irish get PUMMELLED by the BUCKEYES then i wonder what thesewoeful irish fans are going to be tslking about then!

 
At 7:56 PM , Anonymous SouthBendBob said...

You're the best, Marco. You can count on me to have your back anytime Rove, Sparty, or unemployed high school drop-out Buckeye/Ducks/Vols/Wolverine fans try to pick a fight.

 
At 8:09 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

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At 8:16 PM , Anonymous Bob said...

Firing Ty Willingham was racist.

 
At 8:21 PM , Anonymous JoePa's Rotting Corpse said...

Is spell check a program whose rights are reserved only for ND alumni and fans?

The sheer ignorance of some (read: all) of the ND detractors who took the time to write you a message is stifling.

 
At 8:45 PM , Anonymous Jeff said...

Welcome everyone (read: opposing fans) linking from SI.com! And congrats to Marco for getting himself on there with yet another masterpiece.

There are so many, uh, special guests posting here right now (vfr is clearly from the "ding! fries are done" set), it's difficult to know where to start.

Weis winning with Willingham's recruits? As if that's proof that Willingham was somehow better, rather than obviously illustrating the opposite.

Weak schedule? We played the preseason #1, #3, and #4 teams. It's not our fault most of them had bad years. Well, it's partially our fault because we stomped most of the teams we played.

Mediocre games on NBC? Perhaps some of you (those that own a TV, which is apparently very few) caught the HIGHEST RATED COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAME OF THE YEAR between us and the school out west. Sucked to lose that one, but we gained more respect (and recruits) from that loss than most other teams gain from wins.

Willingham's firing was racist? Only through the eyes of those who refused to protest the firing of Ron Zook, with the exact same record, BEFORE THE SEASON ENDED.

Lay off Davie and Ty? Davie gets a pass for his praise of Charlie during the Purdue game (and for helping us dodge the Urban bullet). But after watching the John Saunders hatchet jo- uh, interview with Ty, my respect for him is gone. He cannot lose enough. He has been exposed as a coach and a person.

"Iwish"? I'm sure you do. That's why you're here.

Rudy sucks? Of course he does. THAT'S THE POINT OF THE MOVIE. But those who don't understand the importance of perseverence or the magnetic spirit of Notre Dame wouldn't understand that either.

Again, thanks to all visitors and your continuing interest in Notre Dame football. As for me, the next time I post on an opposing team's site will be the first.

 
At 9:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

vfr'ing: What does Jeff Smardzija's skin color have to do with it? 'White wonder?' Pretty classy.

I'd watch who calls who a racist.

You sure do watch a lot of Notre Dame football! Thanks for keeping us relevant.

 
At 9:37 PM , Anonymous Former Duck fan said...

Sir,

You are a genious.

I will now have a reason to watch the Fiesta Bowl with interest.

Don McLean has always been my favorite.

You just turned me into a Notre Dame fan!

 
At 10:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff is a genius, almost rivaling the Choochoo himself. Mustve spent some time in the robot factory :) That should be published in a book, I cant think of how many times I have said what you said to people who claim we are racist, or Ty was a great coach, or the boob was a great coach, etc. etc..

Keep up the great work Marco. As a current ND student and lifelong fan, I must say that your sight is one of the highlights of my day. Thanks Marco!

 
At 11:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey bob....Firing Willingham was racist? Yeah....sure it was. When he gets fired from Washington for doing a piss-poor job, you make sure to call them racists too. If you can, for one minute, look past his skin color....you can realize the man is a .500 coach. Nothing more. He's a jackass when it comes to football. Black, white, green, red, fool.

 
At 4:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Charlie Weis is in fact winning with Ty's recruits (and a couple left over from Davie too) which is something they couldn't do. Imagine what he will do with his own...as for Brady Quinn who finished 4th in the Heisman balloting and is a front-runner for next year, even he would let you know how superior a teacher he has in Weis this year. Look back at his stats even just a year ago. The difference and change is astounding. Going from middle of the 117 team pack to top 5, wow!

Why didn't any ND haters bring up past coaches when Ty was opportunistically winning his first season with all Davie recruits? Clear something up for me...was Ty in a BCS his first year? Did Ty ever take ND to a BCS? Ty is a .500 ball coach and he wasn't up to doing the job right or well, he'd rather spend his weeks on the links than game prepping. Why doesn't anybody ever mention that he was offered the chance to keep his job if he made an coaching change on offense, yet he passed. Deep down he wanted to be able to walk away with a big fat check in hand playing the victim. Bye-bye mister Ty.

As for the schedule, do you ND hating morons realize these things are made many years in advance? A number of teams will always be on the schedule, like Navy, because of great mutual respect and a history with them. Every year a few traditional foes will continue and our rivalry with Southern Cal. Almost every year the schedule turns out to be one of the hardest in the country. We can't control whether or not all of our opponents live up to their pre-season hype and even with that claim, we still places 6th in the final BCS which takes opponents strength into account.

ND got no respect ranked 46th in preseason and predicted to start 0-6 by many. Yet ND took "the greatest team ever" (Southern Cal) to within 7 seconds, 3 points and a push of their only loss in 30 some odd games. Over the 3 Ty years ND lost by a total of 93 points. Weis is in a complete league above Ty and he is worth every penny of his pay check (he just made the University $14.5 million in one year so he paid for himself.) Plus, why are you all so pissed about how a private institution spends their money? I could care less if the Ducks and Nike waste millions and millions of dollars putting up Time Square billboards trying to hype a non-heisman etc...

I know I am wasting my time even speaking logically and intelligently with the ND haters out there, so I'll leave it there for now. Try to look at the facts rather than shoot off with emotion when attacking someone.

God, Country, Notre Dame.

Go Irish!

 
At 6:30 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you Notre Dame haters out there know what's coming, and that's why you're spewing so much venom toward "Our Lady's" school.

With Charlie Weis and his fabulous coaching staff firmly entrenched in South Bend, and a top-five recruiting class arriving on campus this summer, what's coming is a period of sustained greatness that is your worst nightmare!

It's going to happen, you know it and there's nothing you can do about it!!

As for the never-ending pity party in regards to Ty Willingham, there's one important point about him that you keep neglecting.

It was well documented that Ty had begun interviewing with the University of Washington a full two weeks before he was let go at ND (with a huge buyout). Why in the name of God should Notre Dame keep a coach in place, who knew the job was too big for him and wanted to get out?!!

Now we have the brilliant Charlie Weis, who is a Domer all the way down to the bone marrow and he knows what it means to represent ND. It's his dream job and his ten years as head coach will be remembered for ever as a time when Notre Dame "shook down the thunder" once again.

Get comfortable with it Notre Dame haters. HERE COME THE IRISH!!!

God, Country, Notre Dame in Glory Everlasting!!!!!!!

 
At 7:18 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your arrogance astounds me

 
At 8:38 AM , Anonymous MoreCowbell said...

Ahh, enemy fans trolling the opposition's board, posting (badly spelled, semi-literate) hate. ND is truly BACK.

 
At 12:38 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know Notre Dame is back when morons who hate them are on a ND website crying like little girls.

 
At 1:51 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

As to the argument that Weis winning with Willingham's recruits proving that Weis is a better coach...wow. Think about it for a second. Would you rather have a senior playing for you or a junior? A junior or a sophomore? A sophomore or a freshman? Little thing called experience goes a long way at the college level. Brady Quinn is a good QB, but he's also got much more experience than other juniors. Same goes for every other Willingham recruit that played early out of necessity. These are not the same guys that Willingham had-these are the same guys, 1 year older, 1 year more mature (physically and mentally), and with another year of playing experience. Credit Weis for not making these guys worse, but don't put Weis in the genius category for taking experienced players and not screwing them up. The only accurate comparison between Weis and Willingham would be if both coaches played the same schedule with the same players. Can't do that, so all this "Weis is God" crap may be a tad overblown. Good enough coach, good enough players. That's all you can really say.

As to the argument that "we took Southern Cal to the brink, they're the 'greatest team ever' so we must be great...etc. etc." If that argument is valid (let's, for the sake of argument, assume it is), then the other argument that is also valid is "We came within a few seconds of losing to Stanford, and they lost to a I-AA team, so we must suck." Fact is, ND lost to USC, lost to Michigan State, and didn't really play anyone of consequence the rest of the year. Discuss. (And try not to mention preseason rankings, which, as one poster has pointed out, are notoriously inaccurate).

As to some of the other "arguments" that have been posted:
1. I can do spelling, and I can do complete sentences.
2. In choosing colleges, I turned ND down. Its academics just weren't strong enough for me, honestly.
3. My Jeff Sucksobadjia comment was meant to indicate that ND gets favorable treatment from the refs at every game; and, if Jeff Sucksobadjia were, say, an African-American from the University of Miami, it seems likely that either a penalty flag might have been thrown, or, at the very least, a comment might have been made by a broadcaster. Instead, we all saw the replay, 18 times, sans comment. Subtlety is always lost on the devout. And by the way, I'm white. Who you calling racist, bud?
4. I am gainfully employed, earning more money in 6 months than most people here do in 2 years. And, I'm saving the world to boot.
5. Hey, I was hoping one of you guys could help me out with something: I hear ND had a 5 star recruiting class, but then Charlie Weis ate two of the recruits. Is that just a rumor?

(With the exception of #5, which is meant to be a joke, feel free to engage me on any of my other points. Though, I expect that the best you'll do is "ND IS GODD!" or "WE'RE TEH BESTEST EVER IN THE WHOLE WIDDE WURLD!!!")

And with that, I think my fries are ready. "Ding"

 
At 2:27 PM , Anonymous Jeff said...

I guess ND fans have a little different perspective than other fans, since we watch all of ND's games whether we stink or not, rather than just seeing highlights and commentary on ESPN.

To everyone who has watched the team, and Brady in particular, over the last few years - the difference in this year's team is AMAZING. Attitude, effort, smarts, physical shape - by every measurable and immeasurable quality, Charlie has made a difference.

Look at the offensive rankings. From middle of the pack to top 10. This year's was what is likely the best ND offense OF ALL TIME.

Look at Brady's numbers. It's a quantum leap.

Look at Stovall and Samardzija's numbers. A quantum leap.

Look at the Stanford game. The final drive to win. All ND fans know that under Ty, we would have lost this game. Look no further than Pitt or BC last year for examples.

Is this the natural evolution of experienced players? Or the result of hiring a guy who guided the offense of the 3-time Super Bowl champs (and mentored the Super Bowl MVP QB?)

The changes are not incremental. Anyone who has actually watched the games, and watched the players over the last few years knows the answer. The difference is Charlie.

 
At 2:39 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

...and in other news, as predicted, Jeff couldn't resist the ALL CAPS. At least he spelled things correktly.

But seriously, you could concede that my point and your point are not at odds. But that would take reason, which is not apparent in abundance here.

Anyone who watches college football knows that a player's progress is often not incremental-very often, a player takes a huge step from year to year (Reggie Bush, anyone?). Coaching has something to do with that, obviously, but so do the other factors I've mentioned.

And when Willingham was 8-0, what were you guys saying? That he was just another Bob Davie? C'mon. Admit you were on his bandwagon as much as you on Weis' now. Admit it. And once you do that, there's no logic, at this point, in saying that Weis is so much better. Get back to me in 4 years.

Jeff, are you employed? Doesn't seem like it. Fry guy, my ass.

 
At 3:57 PM , Blogger Coach Leahy said...

Don't take your post pubescent life crisis on us,vfr'ing. We're just trying to take a few moments out of our busy lives to enjoy some football. You seem a bit tense.

Perhaps you should get on the back of Zeke's hog and go for another ride.

 
At 4:37 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

vfr'ing:

You're sexist too. I made the racist comment and I'm a woman. And I'm not a Notre Dame fan. I just think you are a moron. A friend showed me this site because it's a hoot.

 
At 4:52 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

Sexist moron? Not sure where the sexism comes in, but then again, I'm pretty sure you didn't read anything I wrote. Got anything besides name-calling?

And Coach? Hogs are overpriced...1940's technology for rich baby-boomers in search of an image. Talk about crises.

Enjoy getting earholed by the Buckeyes, ND.

 
At 5:58 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

vfr'ing:

No, not all of us were on the Willingham bandwagon. Our offensive numbers were terrible, and we were obviously winning games on sheer luck. Here's the breakdown:

1) Maryland--Zero touchdown scores against a team that had it's best player out to injury. (No parallel--12 game season)
2) Purdue--Zero touchdowns in a narrow win at home. Parallel: Weis blows out Purdue.
3) Michigan--Lloyd Carr's annual road chokejob, with a phantom TD, a safety off a holding call, and a batted-down two-point conversion. We won by 2. Parallel: Michigan loses to Weis by a greater margin than any other loss this year.
4) MSU--63-yard game-winning touchdown off a backup QB's slant pass. Sheer luck. Parallel: MSU gets lucky on the option in overtime, following a dropped TD pass.
5) Stanford--blow out win against a truly awful team. Parallel: Much better Walt Harris coached Stanford team is the recipient of two bad Irish turnovers, and Weis responds with over 600 yards of offense and the win.
6) Pittsburgh--a 14-6 ND win in which we were outgain 403 yards to 185. Not too impressive. Parallel--ND blows out Pitt.
7) Air Force--a solid win, but against a totally one-dimensional team. And of course for the five years previous, our defense saw the option every week. Parallel--Weis blows out BYU.
8) Florida State--a solid win again, but FSU finished with four losses, I think, and outgained us by over a hundred yards. We lucked out on a couple of fumbles inside the FSU 30. Parallel--Weis blows out Tennessee.
9) Boston College--loss. At home. 14-7. Parallel--Weis blows out Washington.
10) Navy--an unimpressive, fourth-quarter comeback game against a terrible Navy team. Parallel--Weis blows out a vastly better, bowl-eligible Navy team.
11) Rutgers--Huge blowout win. Parallel--Weis blows out Syracuse.
12) USC--all-time record for passing yards against Notre Dame set. Parallel--USC beats Weis with an illegal play with 3 seconds to go, after the clock is stopped when a USC fumble bounces out of bounds.

There's about 2 parallels there that favor Willingham--the lucky win over MSU is slightly better than a lucky loss to MSU (it was a bounce either way), and the 2002 BC team is much better than the 2005 Washington team. Everything else solidly favors Weis, including, yes, the USC game.

 
At 6:08 PM , Anonymous Jeff said...

Our points are certainly at odds. You are opining that the team's improvement this year was a natural progression, and would have happened under Willingham anyway. I am opining that you do not own a television.

 
At 6:28 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

Anonymous (if that's your real name...), you're saying that during Willingham's first season, you had the self-awareness to say, "Willingham sucks!"??? Maybe you were one of the ones smitten by the fake Irish/fake resume guy.

Anytime someone says that a "lucky win...is (only) slightly better than a lucky loss," you know you're dealing with a crackpot. Again, if that's true, then the lucky win over Stanford counts for naught, no? And again, you prove my point about the quality of ND's recruits: when Willingham started out, he was working with low-quality recruits on the offensive side of the ball. Weis has got a top QB, a good RB, and at least one solid receiver. QED. At least until he eats one of them.

My whole point in flaming this board is that you guys (and girl!) need to wake up to the fact that you've got an overrated coach coaching an overrated team at an overrated university...which makes you no different than about 20 other schools, who have fans just like you, with players just like yours, with coaches who are paid way too much (just like yours), but with two key differences: The rest of us aren't cramming fake history and fake tradition down the country's throat each week; and the rest of us don't get the same preferential (or should I say reverential) treatment from the BCS, et. al. as ND.

Don't believe me? Try being 9-2, and not ND, with ND's schedule. Think you'd be in a BCS bowl over Oregon? Really?

So have your fun, but know you're no different or better than anyone else...and until you see that, you're actually worse.

 
At 6:42 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

Jeff,
I have 3 TV's. As I've made clear, I've noticed way too many mediocre ND matchups broadcast on said TV's, which prove precisely nothing regarding the question of the offense of ND. Putting 600 yards on Stanford, and beating up on BYU, only shows that you've discovered the forward pass. Out west, they discovered it awhile ago, but I guess it is true that innovation always takes time to occur for narrow-minded.

As I've already conceded that Weis is a good enough coach to not screw up talent, perhaps you might concede that Weis is dealing with talent, and that talent can only be attributed to Willingham, and that further, that talent had significant experience coming into this season, again due to Willingham.

Like any QB, you hit Brady Quinn in the mouth, he's going to throw INT's. And the Buckeyes most certainly will hit him in the mouth. And it will be a sweet moment for ND-haters everywhere when AJ Hawk meets Mr. Sucksobadjia over the middle.

Agree to disagree.

 
At 6:46 PM , Anonymous TouchdownND said...

vr'ing 2 things,

I must ask what about the Stanford game do you see as "lucky." If you watched the game you would have known that all the breaks broke to Stanford's way and we still won because we dominated on offence.

As for a 9-2 team getting in over Oregon, I can think of one; Ohio State. Now, yes they got in on an automatic bid, so the BCS didnt really have a choice in the matter so the comparisson is moot, right? Oh wait, ND got in on an automatic bid too, why because we earned it; end of story.

 
At 7:17 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

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At 7:19 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

If by "earned it" you mean "cut a deal with the BCS that makes the fat cats richer while the athletes on the field get screwed," yeah, well, then I guess you're right. As ABC kept telling us, the Stanford game was actually about $14.2 million, not about the players on the field.

Play in a conference, and then maybe you can say you've earned it. Conference football is inherently more difficult than the cherry-picked games you guys play now. Ask any team in the SEC, Big-10, or even the Pac-10 or ACC. There's very little room for error in a good conference. You guys have miles.

As for the breaks going Stanford's way, I wasn't the one who called ND's win lucky (anonymous did, through the power of logic). But I've already pointed to one break that went ND's way (Smardijizzwad's taunting not being called). What breaks went Stanford's way? Losing their starting QB and half their offensive line to injury? Please. ND holds on every play (even Dan Fouts pointed it out), and it was called but once.

I love how one of the anonymouses above says, that after 2 bad turnovers to Stanford, "Weis responded with over 600 yards on offense."

By the looks of him, Weis hasn't moved 600 yards for a long, long time.

 
At 9:52 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like how you don't complain that a #22 7-4 FSU team got into the BCS. But I guess that that doesn't bother you. Never mind the fact that a 7-4 ND team would never be in the BCS because we have to be in the top 9 of the BCS to be even eligible to get in. I could try to show you that the deal isn't all that great and that we could only make the BCS with a max of 2 losses, but it won't matter because you will go on blindly hating ND anyway. But hey according to you 4 losses is a lot less room for error than 2. Yes our miles of room. Let's not forget that Georgia has two losses as well and isn't even considered by many to be the best team in the SEC right now, or that Colorado was one win away from the BCS. But I'm sure that doesn't bother you either.

And yes the Shark got away with a huge taunt there. If only he were as classy as Reggie Bush and simply front flip into the endzone. If only he were humble like Reggie Bush enough to try and plant out flag in the endzone, but I guess you didn't see that because you would have had to have actually watched a ND game this year which it seems from you posts that you have not. The Shark's taunt was on the same level as that poor kid from Vandy that got flagged at the end of the game against Florida.

Besides ND did deserve to be in the Fiesta Bowl. We finished in the top 6 of the BCS and earned an automatic bid just like every other non BCS conference team in the nation woulld have. I'm sorry that no one vists your blog about your little motorcycle ride (I do find it funny that you call owning a hog to be a terrible midlife crisis but your blog is about your little bike ride. Of course you have gotten more publicity from posting here then you ever did due to your own work so maybe that was your goal.) and maybe that's because nobody cares.

I would like to know what college you went to. Your trip starting in Palo Alto, the arrogance, and the lack of any real football knowledge leads me to believe Stanford. But I guess you could just work there and have gone to those football powerhouses in the Ivy League. And don't worry, we pretty much invented and brought the foward pass into mainstream football during a little game against Army back in the day. We only misplaced it during the last 8 years. Funny that Weis found it in summer practices only but Ty never could find it (cue false statement about Ty's players and the miraculous jump that would have happened anyway under Ty.)

Of course every team in a conference would say that it is tougher to be in a conference. Why wouldn't they? (Cue witty response of because it is, or something of that nature.)

You want something that didn't go our way? How about our starting kicker, who had made 50 straight PATS, hyperextending his knee with about 10 minutes left in the Syracuse game when he was roughed while punting. That caused him to miss a PAT plus two easy FGs. That and our back-up could only reach the 14, setting up their kick return for a TD. That's 14 points right there.

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back about how much money you make. Once again I find it funny that one of your defenses of yourself if how much you make and then you try to attack a man that probably makes more than you do and has more fame than you could ever dream of acheiving. I don't think you could demand $50,000 for a speaking gig and still get tons of requests. I guess you could try to go tell Weis your opinions but he probably couldn't hear youe because he would have his 4 Super Bowl rings plugging his ears. (Cue another witty response about eating them, or him being big enough for all of them to fit in one ear.)

And yes Weis is only good enough to not mess up talent (too bad Ty isn't). I'm glad Tom Brady hasn't repeatedly said, even after Weis left the Pats, that Weis was the reason that he went from a back up at Michigan and a sixth round pick to a 2-time Super Bowl MVP and the next Joe Cool. Man wouldn't it be something if he did?

I could try to show you through stats and other evidence that you are basically wrong, but it won't matter. You wouldn't listen to reason anyway (cue a witty "No you won't listen to reason" comeback). Our terrible schedule that featured several preseason top 25 teams (at least 5 off the top of my head including #1, 3, and 4). Your cherry-picking comment is just so ridiculous when you look at the preseason rankings and that we started with 4 of 5 on the road. That and the experts at ESPN, in whom I'm sure you put so much faith in and are your only source of info, saying that we would be 0-6 and that are schedule was way too hard. I can look up quotes and cite them if you want or you can save yourself the embarrasment. You decide. It's not our fault we blasted most of them out of the water exposing their weaknesses in the process while crushing their morale. I could show how Ty's firing had nothing to do with race (I guess you are fine with the fact that Zook got fired after less than three years with the same record as Ty and that it doesn't bother you that Gilbertson was fired in just two at Washington.) and more to do with historic losses to rivals and the previous 8 years of mediocrity. How almost every single passing record and many offensive records fell this season. Well that happened last year too. To bad it was the other team's offense breaking all of the records. Plus I have some finals to study for. Maybe tomorrow I'll go through it point by point. But it won't matter as talking to you will be like talking to a brick wall. If I have a few spelling or grammatical errors, good. I don't care. If all you can point out are those well then I've done my job in humiliating you. But of course you may be a Wilbon. You may be sitting all alone with your computer and posting this just to get a response out of us ND fans. If you are, good for you. You are still wrong so I don't really care.

Ah to be back were ND football belongs: back to being hated and not pittied. Back to being envied as the name in college football. Women want us. Men want to be us. All aboard the NDChooChoo. Next year, Glory. The haters are scared. They can see that the Robot Genius Charlie Weis has awakened the sleeping giant that is Notre Dame. See you all in Tempe (cue witty response that tOSU will crush us). God, country, Notre Dame.

 
At 9:53 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, the above post from anonymous (me, but who's keeping track?) points out that Stanford was lucky to be in the Stanford game--see where I said they received two bad turnovers?

I called a number of ND's wins in 2002 lucky, and provided reasons why I believe them to be so. I called none of ND's wins in 2005 lucky, because I don't think any of them were.

And, apparently, I'm a "crackpot" for thinking something that everyone knows. Obviously as a fan you PREFER a lucky win to a lucky loss. But as a measure of coaching skill? They're hardly different. You see, we CONTRAST the terms "luck" and "skill."

As for us being 9-2 and in the BCS, well, you've got a point. If we were in a conference, we could get into the BCS by going 8-4, like Florida State.

But what I like best about you, vfr'ing, other than your apparent need to let us know how much money you make and how cool you are and how big your dick is or whatever, is that you're not scared to make some predictions. So let's do it:

Make a commitment right here to come back and apologize to all of us, and to Marco, if ND beats the Buckeyes. You're SURE it won't happen, right?

 
At 6:42 AM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

How come none of you guys have names?
Usually, when I have a one night stand with a Catholic girl, I end up knowing her name by the end of the night. Not you guys...

Before responding to any other thing, let me just say that I try to fight inequities one at a time, which is why I make no mention of FSU, or the silly notion that a conference championship game is in any way fair. I'm with you on that.

I clearly got to the top anonymous. At least the bottom anonymous is fairly coherent.

So you got a bad break because your kicker got hurt the game before. That's definitely worse than losing your starting QB during the game. Definitely. Absolutely.

Since this has turned into a pissing constest, apparently, I'll go on the record here and now and say that OSU will beat the Golden Domers, fairly easily. OSU will do this with defense and the deep pass (playing against type, but they have the talent to go deep), which ND hasn't been able to defend all year. OSU will put Quinn on his back a few times (cue whiny face), which will shake his confidence and cause poor decisions. End of story.

I have nothing to apologize for, so I wouldn't be back to apologize to any of you crazies. When ND loses, are you going to come apologize to me? I think, probably not.

 
At 10:11 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Marco:

Can't you block this guy, vfr'ing, or banish him the way the NDnation did to you? Unlike you, however,he sure is tiresome.

Your PW sweetie

 
At 11:13 AM , Blogger Marco said...

PW Sweetie:

Every time that guy/girl comes back, he/she proves: (1) he/she is obsessed with Notre Dame; (2) he/she secretly loves Notre Dame; and (3) the rest of his/her life has so little value that he/she keeps coming back to a place he/she professes to dislike. My psychiatric interest is piqued by his/her bizarre rantings and behavior. For we of normal bents, it's good clean fun to watch a human meltdown of epic proportions. Since we've got to wait three more weeks until Choo Choo Charlie dismantles the Yuckeyes, it's the best fun we've got.

And besides, I'm enjoying watching him/her continually lose arguments to "anonymous," and then watch him call the Robot fat, call ND racist, call ND fans stupid, use the term "earholed" and then sob about being called a name.

Don't engage, just sit back and enjoy watching him/her get destroyed here, and then watch him/her invariably come back, unable to stay away from the thing he/she loves.

 
At 12:35 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

Yep, I'm back. What can I say, love is blind. *Sniff* Why won't anyone love me back?

Quick definition: "bad turnover" means a turnover that should not have been, i.e. a bad call by the official, or even a completely freakish bounce. A pass thrown directly into the arms of a defender, however, should not be called a "bad turnover." Defense is as much a part of the game as offense, fellas. Maybe you should tell your CB's.

To sum up, your "arguments" boil down to: "ND is back, Weis is great, ND is going to win x number of national championships because we're now the best ever." Oh, and also that since I don't agree with you, I'm an idiot, sexist, obsessed, secretly in love with ND, probably racist, and definitely unemployed.

My arguments boil down to: ND is ordinary, or at least not unlike 20 other schools; Weis is a good enough coach, but not yet worthy of deification; and that you can't yet say that ND will win anything beyond beating up on second-tier schools.

Your arguments are based on faith; mine on reason. While we both see a 9-2 record, you see 2 losses that, but for luck (whatever happened to the luck of the Irish, anyway??), would have been victories; I see 9 wins that came against, for the most part, opponents having a major down year. You see a coach that is everything your previous coach was not; I see a coach that is one thing your previous coach was not. You see ND in a BCS bowl as its rightful place; I see ND in a BCS bowl as the function of a soft schedule, hype, and a deal with the BCS that would not exist but for financial considerations that have no place in college athletics.

If you are unable to see the rationality of my arguments, then you are a true believer. And while I believe there is nothing wrong with being a true believer, reason is lost on the devout.

So maybe I should go pick on some other team's fans...if only I could find the same mix of arrogance, lack of self-awareness, and blind faith...any suggestions?

(All you anonymouses are in quite a pickle, now: Marco says to not engage, but how are you to "destroy" me if you don't? The imponderables of life. Maybe Charlie would know the answer.)

 
At 3:57 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please post the lyrics. We're going on a car trip over th holidays and want to sing it til we get to Grandma's, then sing it during halftime Jan 2.

 
At 6:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe that anyone who would waste his time posting comments on an ND blog just to try to cause trouble by telling Domers that their football coach is apparently not a good coach (although his NFL record would beg to differ) has too much time on his hands.
I also think that someone who feels the need to back his arguments with fat jokes and jabs at catholic girls (which as a catholic girl I found that particular one night stand comment offensive) can't have much to his arguments.
I'm not going to waste my time arguing about ND coaches with someone who obviously has no understanding of Notre Dame spirit, instead I am going to express my joy in having been entertained by the best parody/ cover of "American Pie" I've ever heard, which says a lot since I've heard many. Thank you for the entertainment.

 
At 6:12 PM , Anonymous Knute Rockne said...

Hilarious song. Kepp up the good work.

 
At 6:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I don't get is this--our "soft" schedule. It's actually ranked 21st by Sagarin...not 3rd or whatever OSU's is, but also not 57th or whatever Oregon's is.

Personally, I can see the case for Oregon, but you should realize it's just that--a case. A case that was, fairly or not, undermined by the fact that Cal made a big stink last year about being left out and then made a bigger stink in the Holiday Bowl.

So, vfr'ing, who SHOULD have gone? Oregon? Why not Auburn? Why not Miami or LSU or Virginia Tech? What system are you going to use to choose the most worthy team?

Just the BCS, which everyone knows is a crock? You got a football-ometer that measures how good a team is?

Me, I've got nothing against going for exciting matchups that people want to see. Not only will ND bring in more fans, but ND-OSU also won't be a 9-3 borefest like Auburn-OSU would have been.

Hell, if you don't watch football for interesting matchups, you must hate bowl season. Do you really agonize over Boston College being passed up by the Peach Bowl (or whatever) and sent to Boise? Isn't it unfair how Iowa, which Michigan beat, got to go to the Outback Bowl over Michigan?

Hell no, you don't, and if you do, you're just not a football fan. I LOVE that I get to watch Michigan-Nebraska, and I love that I get to watch OSU-ND.

 
At 7:01 PM , Blogger Marco said...

To those who requested it, below is the address where they lyrics to "Ode to December 12, 2004" can be found (note, it's long and runs beyond the border of this comment page, so make sure you've scrolled to the right and captured the whole thing before cutting and pasting)

http://ndchoochoo.blogspot.com/2005/09/ode-to-december-12-2004.html

 
At 5:59 PM , Anonymous The Leprechaun said...

VFR'ing. OK, these things I recommend you do:

1. Go see your psychologist (or someone that you trust and that you feel comfortable talking to), then:
2. Admit that you are a little jealous of Notre Dame.
3. Admit that deep down inside, you really wish you would have attended Notre Dame.
4. Admit that you are insecure about yourself, and Ohio State.

Think of it as a cleansing of your soul. And then on January 2nd when Notre Dame does beat Ohio State, just remember that it is OK to be jealous, and that in time, you eventually will be able overcome your feelings of insecurity and inferiority.

 
At 11:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

VFR'ing sounds like an Oregon grad to me. I have had to listen to the high pitched whine coming out of Eugene for the past three weeks.

As for anyone's belief that Oregon deserved a BCS bowl slot, I say that's ridiculous. Does anyone truly believe that if ND replaced their schedule with Oregon's that we would be 10-1, and without the 45-13 loss to the Trojans?

 
At 3:18 PM , Blogger dannynd01 said...

Dannynd01-It's a wee bit comical that the androgenous V-ring claims to be from somewhere of academic rigor such that ND looks like ITT Tech, yet still has such a vehement interest in trying to come across as a well versed football guru. Yeah, my alma mater isn't the Ivy League, but it's been, what, number 18 on USNews' rankings for the last 10 years or so? There ain't many football "powerhouses" ahead of us on that list.

People who make reference to their income are, more times than not, overcompensating.

And of our "soft" schedule...yeah. Right there someone shows that they have no sense of perspective spanning further than about 2 years. V-ring is not an educated football fan. How is georgia tech (beat UMiami this year), penn state(beat damn near everybody), michigan, mich state, purdue, (a sure to be improved) stanford (squad), (Quarterback U) UCLA, NC, and USC??? really...how could we pick a softer slate??? aside from the typical service academies, we have a BRUTAL slate, and have never slated a MAC school, much less a I-AA foe, as do the pathetic majority of I-A squads.

But if, as he/she states, he/she did get in and subsequently not attend Notre Dame, THANK GOD. I think most of us knew a few, fortunately very few, ingrates that were there. Better off without him/her and all like him/her.

 
At 11:04 AM , Anonymous LetsBeFriends said...

"All you anonymouses are in quite a pickle, now: Marco says to not engage, but how are you to 'destroy' me if you don't?" We don't need or want to destroy you or anyone else. In fact, if you come to a tailgate next year, we'll feed you and give you a beer. But then you may have to acknowledge that your prejudices are unfounded. Can't have that.

 
At 1:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you tell me where I can purchase a CD with this song on it?

 
At 6:32 PM , Blogger VFR'ing said...

OSU 34, ND 20.

Y'all can line up to apologize to me now. Not that you would.

Yeah, I was the one who predicted ND would get burned by the deep ball. Shows what I know.

Domers suck. Always have, always will. That's not prejudice, it's just an opinion based on mounds and mounds of evidence.

 
At 10:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not sure we need to apologize to you, Vfring. I didn't say ND would win--I said we belonged in the game. With less than 5 minutes to go, OSU was up one score and forced to convert 2 third-and-longs to avoid giving ND a chance to tie.

Meanwhile, Oregon lost to a bad Oklahoma team, Auburn lost to a Wisconsin team that ND would have blown out, Miami got humiliated by LSU, and Virginia Tech had to mount a fourth-quarter comeback to beat Louisville.

So, um, who belonged in the game more than ND? You can make a case for LSU in retrospect, but at the time they'd just lost their last game and fallen out of the top ten.

Face it, ND belonged. OSU was a top-four team, and would have been favored against any potential opponent outside Penn State and the title game guys. Big deal.

 
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